Thursday, March 23, 2006

a great quote i heard tonight:

"eternal life starts today. not when we die."

another one, described as the biggest heresy of modern Christianity:
"it is the trees that move the air."

4 Comments:

Blogger Wake of the Flood said...

What was the context of "it is the trees that move the air." I'm not sure I understand it. It took a bit before I began to think of it in terms of prayer and the "prayer works" form of praying that has a mechanistic modality that makes prayer into Christian sorcery. Is that what was being talked about?

8:41 AM  
Blogger Kurt said...

actually, this one was from my second favorite Methodist theologian, Dr. Sweet. The context was in describing how the modern church has, in many ways, put all of its belief in things physical - programs (processes), buildings, creeds and outward appearances, instead of that which truly moves and is eternal -spiritual matters.
"We have become tree-huggers" is his description.

8:59 AM  
Blogger Rat In A Cage said...

I still don't get it, but I've been up for 20 hours.

I took a bunch of photos of churches in Utah just to post for your enjoyment, Kurt. (No, I haven't gone gay). I just thought they looked nice with the snow covered mountains of Utah in the background. I'll post them Saturday.

2:19 AM  
Blogger Wake of the Flood said...

Now I get it. Ortberg talks about pseudo-transformation: we establish boundary markers and then measure our Christ-like-ness based upon how well we maintain those boundary markers. Actual transformation of our being isn't even within that picture. Which I can see fits with what Sweet is talking about; the ways in which we establish externals to manufacture activity in the hopes that it will generate real transformation. Kind of like providing materially for a spouse, doing the housework, etc., and ignoring them otherwise. Such a marriage is going to find it difficult to grow into a deeper more intimate relationship. I might be very solid, but the couple won't be bound into one.

10:43 AM  

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